October 8, 2011

This Weeks and a Retred! Not to Mention Censorship

Perhaps it is just me but I don't like to be bloggers who patronize  and I'm afraid that MNG does nothing but.  I have no patience for those who will not stand behind their own opinions.  

Higher Than an Eagle

“…it would be interesting to compare the cost of the string quartet to the cost of the helicopters….says Phil Fried: October 3, 2011

Does groupon have a coupon?
Phil

By Any Other Name
“..I still think it’s just more rewarding to play music with other people, though…” says Phil Fried: October 2, 2011

As someone who performs solo improvisations almost exclusively, though I do interact with electronics, ensemble improvisation can devolve into playing historical roles. Not to mention just loud and fast. Of course this is not always true. That said,I’m not much interested in fulfilling the historical role of the jazz bass player, even in a free jazz setting. Sure sometimes I do that, I do think of myself as a professional, but there are many other folks much better than I for that task. Solo improvisation is different.

Problematic for me is also the tendency for folks to see musicians only in terms of the quality of those they perform with. For me that is not possible either. Oh well.
The Unimaginable Otherwise
“..To me, it’s a bracing reminder that the “unimaginable otherwise” has always been the only real frontier of new music…” Phil Fried: September 14, 2011

True, yet why only interpret this to mean opening up closed forms and completed compositions? Do I really want to spend my all time recomposing the works of others? One might argue that that is what composers do anyway. Sure. Then again it depends on how, if, or what, you model.

Reappraising Walter Piston
“…I for one don’t see any comments above that would remotely be describable as “ignorant” or “anti-intellectual.” Perhaps you could clarify your meaning?..” says Phil Fried: September 15, 2011

Hmmmm. I do. I believe Mr. Smith was refereeing to Mclaren’s post actually. Personally I’m surprised that such a post was allowed here.

“..Coercive dogmatists are fundamentalists…” says Phil Fried: September 16, 2011

Who is forcing who to do what? I really have no idea what you are talking about. I note this; that you seem to project a view of art as a see-saw. That is for one composer to be up you must put another composer down.
The Role of Doubt
Schoenberg continues to fascinate, even those who despise him. Oddly one legacy of Schoenberg’s arrogance used by many composers, even those who despise him, was his claim that there was a musical enemy that was actively working against him. One sees this in the many straw man augments used by composers that appear even on these very pages.

A close look at these claims shows that they are false, and self serving, except in the case of Schoenberg’s music.

In his case the opposition was real.

My 2nd reply--which was not printed!!! says Phil Fried: October 4, 2011

It does not surprise me that many of the comments on this page fall into some category or another.  Some of which are outside the purview of musicologists and historians.